Help Needed

[miew 0]

Alright, this is for you map experts and critics =)

 

Our current map is in need of some obstacles for the center and outer ring of map. Please post your ideas/contributions in this thread or you can email me at miew@starwarzone.com.

 

Here is a little image to highlight the area in question

 

 

 

[Quickshot* 0]

i got some extra time i can add some things for ya, give me till bout friday i would say. i will get a map...

 

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[DARKest DAys 0]

just let qiuck do it

[sanka 0]

If I have to answer the G2 swastika question 10 times a day I will kill you all.

[Pharaoh's Legacy 0]

 

something to force ppl inside when they're trying to do laps would be cool. But keep in mind that it shouldn't be too difficult to use the outside to search for nme base. Make it flagging friendly

 

Sank: I like the G2 obstacles! ALL OF EM! Maybe if we turned the ends on the "swastika's" different ways ppl wouldn't see them that way.

 

-PL

[miew 0]

Thanks for volunteering quick

 

I hope dd's comments doesnt discourage others from contributing something though. Even little interesting obstacles we could add in there would be nice.

 

The obstacles in the G2 maps were good but I think we can do better. Plus I think its better to have fresh stuff rather than reusing the same old things

[Quickshot* 0]

i was thinking about changing some bases also, i mean i can just make 2 maps one with new bases and one with obsticles the bases in these coords...

 

I14, L7, G9

 

no one really uses those bases, now i don't really need to make entirely new bases, i was thinking of adding ladies room in there (the smaller one) and then making some new ones or maybe even adding another good base from the past.

 

i wanted to change those bases, cause no one really uses them at all, i normally just hide flags in there cause ppl never go there

 

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[senti 0]

placing obstacles in the outer ring would pretty much fuck up the design. You can better make a whole new map if you do that.

[Quickshot* 0]

senti doesn't want us to hurt his baby

 

but instead of adding obsticles in the part with the goals, can we put them on the very outer ring, that is where most people run.

 

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[senti 0]

I ment the whole outer ring.

I assume you know what the design is about. So that would tell you enough why there shouldn't be any obstacles in the outer ring. Unless swz is going to get rid of the swz theme, but that has never been seriously discussed.

[Circle 0]

Just fill it with doors

[miew 0]

Senti- i know you take alot of pride in your work. I can assure you that the intention here is not to butcher your good work. The problem is that the outer section encourages ppl to just run laps with flags until win. Also, all i'm looking for here is just some obstacles to discourage the behaviour (not to completely fill the area).

 

Quick- sure thing. A few new bases would be nice to have. Dont reuse old bases though, we have just about reused our old bases to death

 

QUOTE (Circle @ Oct 7 2004, 02:13 PM)

Just fill it with doors

madness!

 

[Pharaoh's Legacy 0]

I think what senti's concerned about is that when these modifications are made the map will no longer look like the symbol of the galactic empire. That was the whole point of the map's design. Unfortunately it's proven not to be the most conducive to flagging, so we need to sacrifice aesthetics for functionality =)

[Quickshot* 0]

ok so i will make 2 maps then, one with obsticles and one with obsticles and new some new bases (only taking hotse out that aren't used), now i have started it and have still been working on it here and there over the day, but school got in the way a bit, my deadline of friday will be held but i will assure you at latest next friday it will be done, most likely though it will be done mon or tues of next week.

 

thanks guys...

 

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[abadx 0]

heh i'll save you some reading time and post my point first

 

Reduce the bases, make it easier to fly to the sides of them so you don't need the channel, add in random obstacles where bases uses to be, and you're done.

 

I think the map is too cluttered right now and it's a pain in the arse to catch someone that's running. There should be easier ways to reach the outer rim with more access points that force people more inward when they enter. It's hard to anti on that outer edge so if you had someone staked out at two different points you could essentially warp back and forth around the map once your scouts saw someone coming.

 

Some of the clutter should be removed so that bombers can get in anti points and essentially trap people in that area where they will then be forced to fight. There should be a big disadvantage for people that want to try to hide out and run around there.

 

You really need to put blocking points on that rim so you can't just run round and round but if you did that, you'd defeat the purpose to that whole rim. Doors don't really work well because if a person sees you coming they can door warp and evade anti and then just run off to another section of the map.

 

In my opnion the outer rim is good in concept but I think a bad idea overall. The map shouldn't be so complex that you need to create a channel just to search the multiple bases that exist. There's only two teams playing against each other for the most part... why would you need any more than say five bases? Sure more bases make it more interesting but overkill is just not good.

[myndzi 0]

If you still want aesthetics, just cut off the outer ring entirely. It'll still look the same, you just won't be able to fly there.

 

The bases are nice and obstacley-glued together, but that makes it a pain to get OUT to someone who's running, let alone keep anti on them, especially considering the anti ships are now the slowest ones.

[Tmb* 0]

just adda puke stain . that should cure what ales ya

[Cleric 0]

please dont make the center to crowded.. ty

[valvalvalvalvalvalvalvalv 0]

dont add ladies please, if we are going to change bases lets get some NEW bases.

the only bases that are ever used on this map (reactor, barking, frog, s12) weve had forever. im pretty sick of them, personally. if these map makers can get working it would be nice to see some new bases.

[Silver Werewolf 0]

Try solving the problem with people running round by a) putting doors in or using Overstrands map editor (http://www.mechanized.us/dev/) to put in tile 242, which is invisible on screen and radar and warps when touched.

[senti 0]

QUOTE (Silver Werewolf @ Oct 15 2004, 07:07 AM)

Try solving the problem with people running round by a) putting doors in or using Overstrands map editor (http://www.mechanized.us/dev/) to put in tile 242, which is invisible on screen and radar and warps when touched.

does that sound like advertising?

[DARKest DAys 0]

Hang his ass

[Circle 0]

I know what you can do to the out ring, put wormholes along it like the arena ?go koth. All it'll take is a repel to stop a guy from running cuz he'll be stuck to the wall after bouncing around from the repel. Yes, do this, I wanna go fast in the rings.

[sanka 0]

Lots of wormholes adds lots of lag.